Monday, September 2, 2013

Jim Fetzer

On 9/11 with "Live Mike"

NB: 160min

17 comments:

  1. It's a delight to listen to you Dr. Fetzer. You are a great human being and a credit to our cause and race. Thank you

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  2. That was a remarkable two hour non-stop talk on 9/11.

    I find myself relying on Elias Davidsson's findings about the lack of evidence and the government's failure to provide proof of its claims of mass murder and how it is not up to us the citizens to disprove their case. The fact that they did not make a case is very telling.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/08/18/watzal/
    Book review: Hijacking America’s Mind on 9/11 by Elias Davidsson

    ......When it comes to airplane crashes, it befalls on the National Transportation Security Board (NTSB) to determine the circumstances in which the airplane crashed: the plane is pieced together from the debris, the cause of the crash is determined and a public report is issued regarding the circumstances of the crash.

    The U.S. government did not, however, permit the NTSB to investigate the 9/11 crashes. It had to be carried out, exceptionally, by the more secretive FBI, which has no obligation to publish its findings. Why did the U.S. government insist on such unprecedented secrecy?

    Elias Davidsson’s book may provide an answer to this question. His book is a very thorough study of specific aspects of the 9/11 events that have hitherto been neglected. The strength of his book lies in its reliance on primary evidence, the sources for which are provided so that readers can check for themselves the accuracy and relevance of the evidence....

    ......A substantial chunk of his book is devoted to an analysis of the telephone calls made between passengers and crew-members with their colleagues or loved-ones on the ground. It is actually the most comprehensive and thorough analysis of these phone calls undertaken to this date.

    One gets the rather sinister impression – reading the quoted phone calls – that the callers were not experiencing true hijackings. Readers will have to judge for themselves whether this impression is justified.

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  3. Who Was Really Behind the 9/11 Attacks?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWLis-TVB2w

    Here is James Corbett latest spreading the official 9/11 Truth Cover story that Boeings were actually used on 9/11.

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  4. I think the 9/11 Truth groups must forget their differences on details and agree to acknowledge the one truth which is that the US government has failed to prove its case about 9/11.

    While we cannot take the government, et al, to court, we can and must get the facts out to the public: that there isn't a shred of evidence to support the government's hijacker story.

    There is no evidence that
    Muslims committed the crime of 9/11
    By Elias Davidsson
    http://www.aldeilis.net/english/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1614&Itemid=107

    Abstract: The United States government has alleged that 19 individuals with Arab names,
    deemed fanatic Muslims, hijacked four passenger planes on 11 September 2001 and crashed them
    in a suicide-operation that killed approximately 3,000 people.
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    (1.) the US authorities have refused to produce evidence regarding the nature of the crashed objects

    (2.) there is no proof that the aircraft which left with passengers were the same as the "crashed aircraft", if any. [No plane parts, which would have unique serial numbers, belonging to alleged aircraft were recovered from any of the sites.]

    (3.) there is no proof that flights AA11, UA175, AA77 and UA93 flew towards the known crash sites

    (4.) there is no proof that any passenger, crew members or "terrorist" actually boarded any aircraft (no eyewitness actually confirmed the boarding at a specific gate, time and tail number.)

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  5. Truthers who continue to believe planes crashed on 9/11 should produce proof and not waste any more of our time.

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  6. Much of the NON-cognitive infiltration squabbling among truthers now seems due to their varying degrees of inability to grasp the full (TV networks-assisted) enormity of the perps' 9/11 fraud.

    That's because it's not just a case of the alleged heroic/tragic events on board the "planes" being a wholly ficticious narrative, but also a more complex case of:

    1. The bogus, unverifiable identities of a large percentage of the "victims".

    2. The inauthenticity (due to CGI fabrication) of much of the professional and "amateur" imagery of the plane-hits, exploding/collapsing towers, and rubble-field aftermath.

    3. The extremely suspicious nature of the grossly unprofessional and unscientific "ivestigations" subsequently performed by a cadre of government agencies thoroughly unable/unwilling to build a provable criminal case against the "plotters" that could ever have survived a fair trial, according to the Constitutional rules of evidence, in a civilian court.

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  7. A lot of people know about Project Hammer, the use of the Golden Lily Treasure (WWII Japanese loot) to bring down the USSR and to disappear the $240 billion that was used in the rubble of the World Trade Center. But, in case you haven't seen the evidence laid out, here's the link to the document authored by one "E J Heider" on Wikispooks:
    Document:Collateral Damage 911
    Here's a YouTube(c) video version (which I recall Dr Fetzer linking to once and which is a reading with related photos and charts):
    911-Conspiracy Finally Solved!
    Of course, the physical science leaves much to be desired. The financial and historical motives behind the 9/11 attacks is where it makes an invaluable contribution.

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  8. My mistake. The YouTube(c) reading is not of the Collateral Damage document, but it does deal with the personalities and companies involved. Please read the Collateral Damage document: it ties it all together, I believe. Goes way beyond the 9/11 crime.

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  9. Bill, this is incredible!

    Document:Collateral Damage 911 - WikiSpooks
    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Collateral_Damage_911#The_War_Chest

    The answers to the questions surrounding the cause of the WTC attack will be found in events going as far back as 1990 and 1991, when the George H.W. Bush was president........

    What the public record suggests is that with the beginning of the first Bush Presidency in 1989, George H.W. Bush initiated a program of covert economic warfare to bring about the collapse of the Soviet Union. The name of this program appears to be Project Hammer, a previously reported, multi-billion dollar covert operation, ‘third world investment program’ whose investments remain shielded. This program consisted of four major covert operations including:

    Theft of the Soviet treasury,
    Currency destabilization of the Ruble,
    Funding of the KGB Generals’ August 1991 coup against Gorbachev, and
    Takeover of the key energy and defense industries in the Soviet Union.
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    Read the second part which George W. plays. It focuses around the Caspian oil and pipeline etc.

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  10. Collateral Damage 911, continued......

    In preparation for their war against Communism, and in the years leading up to the failed – or faux – coup of 1991 which initiated the last days of Gorbachev and the rise of Yeltsin, Bush and a cadre of rogue KGB officials built a complex international network of banks and holding companies that would be used to take over ownership of the Soviet economy. Over 300 of these KGB turncoats who supported this operation would later be re-located to the US in the early 1990s and pensioned. [111] Periodic CIA reports to Congress would review KGB and organized crime complicity in the takeover of Russia by criminal elements, but all mention of the formidable role of the U.S. would be expunged from Congressional oversight and the public record. [112]

    In the first phase of the economic attack on the Soviet Union, George Bush authorized Leo Wanta and others to destabilize the ruble and facilitate the theft of the Soviet/Russian treasury. This would result in draining the Russian treasury of between 2,000 to 3,000 tonnes of gold bullion, ($35 billion at the time). [113] The gold was ‘stolen’ in March of 1991, facilitated by Leo Wanta and signed off by Boris Yeltsin’s right hand man. The majority of the leaked reports from the CIA and FBI suggest the theft of the Russian treasury was a KGB and Communist party operation, but what those reports omitted was the extensive involvement of Boris Yeltsin, the U.S. banking industry and the CIA.

    In the second phase, Wanta, George Soros and a group of Bush appointees would begin to destabilize the ruble. There were two major operations: the largest was coordinated by Alan Greenspan and Oliver North, and implemented by Leo Wanta.

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  11. DR. FETZER:TWO QUESTIONS.
    1. IN THE DOCUMENTARY 9/11 RIPPLE EFFECT, THEY SHOW WHAT IS SUPPOSEDLY A MILITARY JET, WITH A POD ON IT, HITTING THE FIRST TOWER, WITH A FLASH THAT IS CLAIMED TO BE A CANNON (IN THE POD) THAT CAUSES AN EXPLOSION TO COME OUT OF THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, A REALLY BRIGHT EXPLOSION. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ISSUE?
    2. THE LATE BILL COOPER SAID, HE READ NAVAL INTELLIGENCE DOCUMENTS THAT SAID "THE DRIVER OF KENNEDY'S LIMOUSINE, WILLIAM GREER, SHOT KENNEDY", AND HE SHOWS THE ZAPRUDER FILM, SUPPOSEDLY ENHANCED IN JAPAN, WITH WHAT APPEARS TO BE A GUN THAT FIRES, AND YOU SEE KENNEDY'S BODY REACT AT THE TIME THE GUN IS SUPPOSEDLY FIRED. IS THIS FOR REAL? IN ALL THE ACCOUNTS I'VE HEARD YOU PRESENT, YOU NEVER SAY GREER HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH ONE OF THE SHOTS THAT HIT KENNEDY. WHAT ARE YOUR CONCLUSIONS ABOUT BILL COOPER'S ASSERTIONS?

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    1. I think I can answer these for you much the same way Dr. Fetzer would, but I'd be happy for him to correct me if I'm wrong:

      1. Those visuals are undoubtedly peculiar. However, they don't stand alone as the only prominent visual anomalies of the alleged flight 175 across those epic few seconds. They are, in a sense, inconsequential. Metaphorically, If an athlete ran a marathon at impossible, inhuman speed..it would be inconsequential if say he were observed to be wearing a special kind of Nikes. Since, no matter how special or peculiar they may have been, they had nothing to do with the inhuman speed.
      Same logic applies here. Flight 175 could have not sustained even half its observed speed, and it could not have melted into the building effortlessly, and disappeared entirely inside before exploding. These details are SO important and SO irrefutable that it makes little different what those visual artifacts of "flash" and "pod" really are...even though they are vaguely interesting.

      2. The Zapruder film as we've seen it has proven to be completely inauthentic. You truly cannot use any of the video to determine what happened in Dealey plaza. Certain sequences have to show real action, but it is so massively edited and, well, vandalized, that those obscure movements don't add up to anything definitive. For all we know, that was intentionally edited to together to give that impression. I don't believe so, but the point is you can't look at that video as if it is showing authentic action in sequence.

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    2. I WRITE IN CAPS. BECAUSE OF VISION PROBLEMS!!! THANKS FOR YOUR EFFORTS: ON 9/11 RIPPLE EFFECT (COPY AND PASTE INTO YOU TUBE),BY THE TEN MINUTE MARK, THE PLANE EMITS A FLASH PRIOR TO HITTING THE BUILDING, BLOWING UP ON IMPACT (IT APPEARS THAT THE PLANE AND FUEL EXPLODE GOING INTO THE TOWER, WITH THE BRIGHT EXPLOSION COMING OUT OF THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING). I HAVE SEEN ANOTHER FILM THAT SHOWS A PLANE ENTERING A TOWER WITH NO RESISTANCE, AS DR.FETZER HAS ALLUDED TOO(IT APPEARS TO COME NEARLY OUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING;ON 9/11 RIPPLE EFFECT, THAT MUST BE THE FIRST PLANE THAT HIT, WITH THE SECOND BEING THE FAKE DR. FETZER REFERS TOO). IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE DOCUMENTARY, IF YOU HAVE TIME, WATCH, THEN GIVE ME YOUR OPINION(IT ONLY TAKES TEN MINUTES)! COPY AND PASTE INTO YOU TUBE:William Cooper - JFK Assassination Unmasked 2: ON THIS CLIP, YOU WILL SEE, FROM "BEHOLD A PALE HORSE",BY COOPER,WHAT APPEARS TO BE A GUN FIRING AT KENNEDY,FROM INSIDE THE LIMO., AND HIS BODY REACTIONS TOO BEING SHOT: COOPER SAYS THAT GREER REACHED OVER HIS RIGHT SHOULDER, WITH HIS LEFT HAND, AND SHOT KENNEDY (THIS IS WHAT HE REPORTS TO HAVE SEEN ON NAVAL INTELLIGENCE DOCUMENTS THAT EXPLAIN HOW KENNEDY WAS KILLED). WHAT APPEARS TO BE A GUN, CAN BE SEEN. I HOPE DR. FETZER CAN ADDRESS THE ISSUE, HE KNOWS SO MUCH MINUTIA ABOUT ALL AREAS OF THE ASSIGNATION, HE HAS TO BE ABLE TO TELL ME ABOUT WILLIAM COOPER'S ASSERTIONS AND FILM CLIP!!! THANK YOU, VERY MUCH!!!

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    3. My response comes in reverse order:

      2. William Cooper's analysis is thorough, and very good based on the video he's using. Unfortunately, it can not be taken at face value. Even so, I wouldn't necessarily agree with Cooper that what we're seeing is anything but an illusion, or trick of the eye and mind. Its not conclusive, but rather more imaginative. Yet, I appreciate his work. The problem remains that video itself is definitely, positively, 100% inauthentic. If it truly was an 8 mm Zapruder-shot home movie to begin with, it was massively edited after the fact, and before being shown to the public in its entirety. Far too much stringent analysis of the video as a whole has been done, to still refute its inauthenticity. The data is clear. It is massively altered film. Which precludes me from making any assumptions of minutia based on the film. Things like whether or not there were 6 people in the Lincoln limo can be ascertained and known from the film...but things like whether one person tiled this way or another that way at x point in time....none of that can truly be established from this film, as it all could have been and mostly was, changed.

      1. I don't totally follow your question here. I have seen that film previously, and gives great account of many visual anomalies. I do remember it spending considerable time on the "pod" and the "flash" and all of there analysis is very straightforward and common sense. Which is nice.
      However, it stops at these peculiar items and ignores the elephant in the living room, which is the impossible speed, impossible entry, and impossible non-detonation until after the building had thoroughly swallowed an intact Boeing. Nope. Can't happen. Not won't. Can't.

      I sometimes even omit the "impossible speed" part from discussions, only because people tend to hang on that as being debatable. As if, it makes a difference, in light of the impossible entry. The impossible entry, in my mind, is the entire 9/11 case signed sealed and delivered. It is all you need to shatter the story. I'm not concerned about it punching out the back of the building or not. I'm not concerned about whether some videos are inconsistent, or if they're all truly identical.
      For me, it is all about that impossible entry. It is glaring, in your face, impossibility, happening right before your eyes. You can watch it happen in great detail from dozens of angles. And it blows the whole scam. I implore you to watch just the video of flight 175 entering the south tower, knowing what should happen and seeing what did happen. Watch closely as an image of a plane glides effortlessly into a solid steel structure without any apparent damage to the building, or the plane. It is truly a sight to be seen.

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  12. For some 9/11 truth researchers, a whole decade has now been spent studying multiple "impossibilities" depicted in the photos and videos of the crashes AND collapses. Now, that's a tremendous amount of time and effort that has been invested in deriving contentious conclusions (as to what really happened) from source material which itself is extensively contaminated by digital forgery and fraud.

    Yet, compared to those noble JFK truth researchers, some of whom have spent nearly half a century basing their own (also contentious) conclusions on much older imagery, riddled instead with analog-fakery artifiacts, the 9/11 truthers ARE ONLY BEGINNING.

    Whew!

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  13. WHAT PLANES?

    FOR CYBERFRUME AND OTHER PLANE BELIEVERS:

    At long last, a new video illustrating the impossible entry of a plane into the WTC towers and much more.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJU55FzcM2A&feature=player_embedded#t=1790

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  14. PLANE BELIEVERS, ALSO WATCH:

    ? 07 - The Key - YouTube
    (HOW VIDEO COMPOSITES WERE MADE)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rml2TL5N8ds
    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    ? 08 - The Psy-Opera - YouTube
    (HOW MEDIA MIND CONTROL FALSE MEMES SUCH AS "COLLAPSE" AND "FIRES" WERE IMPLANTED BY MEDIA COMMENTATORS)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl8p16YE2YY

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