Monday, July 21, 2014

Nick Kollerstrom / George Lees & Gordon Bowen / Dennis Cimino

MH17 / Iraq / MH17

25 comments:

  1. wrong engine @the scene suggests false flag http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/26/mh-17-hoax-crash-site-evidence-reveals-no-boeing-777-engine/

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  2. Define your terms please.

    False flag?

    Hoax?

    This is clearly a hoax, ie. no one died. Same as Sandy Hook.

    False flag implies that the crash was real.

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    1. Innocent people died and were prepped for latercuse. Flight MH370 was used to remove a hole in a sweater by using scissors to cut out the hole. This bassacwards approach to executive branch duties is past acceptable to Americans and is now trendy. Fukushima, built by Rockefeller interests has been decimating Pacific and western US wildlife for 3 years without the US helping with containment because Japan refuses to take the blame for the sabotage. No lie.

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  3. Excellent show.

    That VT article is wrong, I pointed that out to Gordon Duff and he concurred with me - they are the right engines, the large pieces on the ground are the HP Turbines from the rear of the engine, the larger front part of the engine is just a fan housing and would have been smashed into pieces.

    The event was a false flag, not a hoax. A Boeing 777 did crash, what is unknown is whether it was MH17 or MH370. People did die, we just don't know when they died.

    My personal take on it, at his point is that MH17 was cancelled that day, so there was no flight out of Schiphol. Another 777 was flown over the Ukraine, either the MH370 plane or the one that has been stored in Tel-Aviv since last November. A bomb was detonated on board, causing it to crash.

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    1. Yes, people died. It appears to have been MH370 with a lot of bodies in more advanced states of decomposition that if they had been killed in the crash. To distract from Israel's invasion of Gaza, one of the great crimes of our time. COMPLETELY DISGUSTING.

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    2. I don't share viewpoint on this one Ian. Maybe if there was an interview with one of the rebels who shot down the plane. Why hasn't VT tracked down one of them? Surely you have some contacts. Only once you publish an anonymous interview with one of these rebels will you get anyone to change their mind. For now I just think you are being lazy!

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  4. that would seem most plausible. a zionist canard to deflect from the horrors of gaza.

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  5. Yes, distracton of Gaza is one of the prime motivations, another being to attack Russia due to the formation of the BRICS alliance and another being to punish Malaysia for hosting the war crimes tribunal last year that found Israel guilty of genocide and crimes against humanity.

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  6. Hey Jim: GREAT show, for sure--but I want to put it to u & ask u, do u see now (I know u've been aware) the CENTRAL importance of central-banking?--just legalized COUNTERFEITING?--isn't this KEY?

    Next question: why not be anti-Semitic (not merely anti-Zionist)?--isn't it absurd pretend there are "good" Jews, like there are good psychopaths?--are u familiar (I can't imagine u're not) w. the Talmud and what it says about gentiles and Jesus Christ?

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    1. Real Christian (Anti-Semitic) Revolution Absolutely Necessary

      Blue...: I agree w. u in sentiment, indubitably. We NEED A REVOLUTION--as of St. Constantine the Great--the real thing. Thus I say Judaism must be exterminated, many if not most of these Jews--NOT JUST "ZIONISTS"--need to be interned, confiscated, separated by sex, and watched carefully till they die-out.

      History must put "paid" to Judaism. No decent person should be willing to be known as kike or sympathetic thereto.

      Thus (a) we need something to UNITE the volk by means of sentiment, and this isn't better done than by dear Christianity--which however, must be understood as (1) anti-Semitic, and (2) rationalistic.

      (b) W. anti-Semitic Christianity we can then definitively deal w. the "Judeo-Christian" (JC--see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo/ref.) hereticalists and traitors who support terror-state of Israel, etc. JCs are foremost allies of Jews, perhaps 12% of pop., united (pretty well) and extremely well funded by Jews. Rest of pop., w. exception of less than 10% "leftists," is dis-united, confused, distracted, needing leadership.

      This anti-Semitic, rationalist Christian strategy is necessary plan, the JCs the biggest problem, they main force propping Jews. The "leftists" (homosexuals, et al.) will be even easier to treat.

      Further then, we merely make use of states-rights, nullification, and primacy of local gov.--this is necessary general plan; spread the word. A.


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    2. Regarding BLUEEYEDEVIL on solutions, yes, rgusciscwgete key pivot the truth community must make. Dr. Fetzer and others are providing a venue and publishing their analysis for the greater population to discuss but when it comes to solutions that everyone here can do, I think you are correct in surmising this is the key. James Corbett, among others, have been trying to provide solutions. The opposite case is Akex Jones , where there is only alarm ringing - it helps no one and makes people passive. Success builds on success. I would think in terms iof TACTICS, Asymetrical Potentials, and Counter- Insurgent psychological warfare for a place to start. Key things to ruminate on are protocols by which you and others can communicate, organize , plan, etc with discretion, and also a way to enroll the energies, trust and talents of others who feel the way you do , and to do so while being discrete. I would also offer one strategy is to have an above board mainline. "Reform" campaign but which will also have a sub- rosa component. And the key will be to quietly " enroll " others into this with a trustworthy apparatus thT is also capable of using the leverage and ubiquity of our large disgruntled awake akternative community.

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  8. I can show you ideas alone that -- if implemented -- would be very cool. Like mind losing cool. But to do so would involve an apparatus that is neutral by which to publish with anonymity, etc. Perhaps VT itself could have a "satirical" column that could provide interesting ideas and so forth. A website developed on TOR would be another thing , something that just protects whomever manages its domain etc. A few things like that, and amazing things could happen. Use your imagination.

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  9. Coincides With Exercises.
    That fulfills one of the 11 halmarks of a false flag/hoax event.

    MH17 HOAX: Crash Scene Evidence Reveals No Boeing-777 Engine | Veterans Today

    It’s now established that US and international troops were deployed to the Ukraine under Exercise Rapid Trident - a 12-Nation joint military exercise in the Ukraine coinciding with the alleged crash of MH-17.

    WHAT IS RAPID TRIDENT?

    Rapid Trident supports interoperability among Ukraine, the United States, NATO and Partnership for Peace member nations. The exercise helps prepare participants to operate successfully in a joint, multinational, integrated environment with host-nation support from civil and governmental agencies.

    Rapid Trident is a part of U.S. European Command’s Joint Training and Exercise Program, designed to enhance joint combined interoperability with allied and partner nations.

    The exercise also supports Ukraine’s Annual National Program to achieve interoperability with NATO and commitments made in the annual NATO-Ukraine work plan.

    How many times have government and military exercises turned into false flag events like 9/11, Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon Bombing and now – the sensationalized downing of a Malaysian Airliner, MH-17, as another in a long line of False Flags. VIDEO: DAHBOO7 Opinion about Rapid Trident

    Interview Reveals US Army Facilitated actions in Eastern Ukraine. Did the Army hire Ukraine sub-contractors to haul imported crash debris ror camera fodder?

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  10. After all we've studied about 9/11 these past years, how could anyone possibly think a real plane crashed? Just look at the debris they've shown us--suitcases, piles of clothing, mannequins or crash dummies, and that collection of passports. Hello? Since when do they collect passports--pristine passports at that-- and hold them in one place on a plane? Didn't you all sense something amiss with that long, months old set up of flight MH370? I think it's hopeless when the top researchers in the world think there was a real plane involved here.

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    1. More shameless bullshit from the most pernicious and disgusting disinfo troll to have infested this forum.

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  11. MH17 HOAX: Crash Scene Evidence Reveals No Boeing-777 Engine | Veterans Today

    How many times have government and military exercises turned into false flag events like 9/11, Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon Bombing and now – the sensationalized downing of a Malaysian Airliner, MH-17, as another in a long line of False Flags.

    VIDEO: DAHBOO7 Opinion about Rapid Trident
    Interview Reveals US Army Facilitated actions in Eastern Ukraine. Did the Army hire Ukraine sub-contractors to haul imported crash debris ror camera fodder?

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  12. fetzer when are you gonna post all that Hook footage you claimed to have taken with Halbig .... seems ridiculous you have put this off for months when you bragged all about it

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  13. Dennis Camino's comment about Edward R. Murrow being the last good journalist in America destroyed my faith in his ability to analyse the Ukraine situation. Edward R. Murrtow was a tool , not a crusader throughout his career. He facilitated the immigration and precision placement in academia of the entire German Jewish Frankfurt School of cultural Marxist intellectuals and thereby helped pioneer the destruction of the social norms and ideals that had made the country unique. His attack on Joseph McCarthy was ordered by Zionists and was a cover for the gehind the scenes bidding he did for the the machers who wanted the hearts and purse strings of American Jewry to be Zionist now instead of Communist. http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worldview-times/article.php?articleid=3607

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  14. I'd like to see the 150 images sent to dutch investigators... They should be a good laugh... there will be absolutely no exif data just like all the other images we get to see.

    I asked for a definition of false flag, because that article refers to Sandy Hook and Boston Bombing as false flags... which I found very odd...

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  15. "More shameless bullshit from the most pernicious and disgusting disinfo troll to have infested this forum."

    Hey, Greenhalgh, hasn't it sunk into that dense bird brain of yours that it's not necessary to destroy any property anymore unless it's government property with asbestos and other problems. Haven't you noticed they never demolish any commercial, privately owned property? Why would that be? Lawsuits maybe?

    We are at a place now where all they have to do is SAY something happened, SHOW some file videos and PICTURES of grieving families and people believe it.

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    1. Shut up disinfo bitch.

      I hope one day karma bites you hard for the evil shit you spread.

      Don't you have a conscience?

      How do you sleep at night knowing you work for evil?

      You disgust me.

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    2. Ian The Pharisaist Kikenvermin

      Ian: u stupid kike--don't u know that's Pharisaism, stupid ass?--there is no good-evil.

      According to Christ we're all sinners, moron. That's big diff. btwn humans and kikes like u, Ian--u try to con & intimidate folks on Pharisaist "good-evil" delusion/fallacy/heresy.

      For there's no perfectly "free" human will, Ian--only God's will is perfectly free. U enjoy being "disgusted," eh kike--self-righteous, Pharisaist puke.


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  16. Yea, this was the first Cimino appearance that had impressed me - lacking easily verified errors such as his aggressively held but never evidenced belief in the Khazar hypothesis - until the very last minute when he said that about Murrow. Murrow was quite clearly a gormless twat (or 'useful idiot' as his penultimate controllers phrased it).

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